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	<title>Comments on: Disappointing</title>
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	<description>living a life in resonance with God</description>
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		<title>By: Bill (cycleguy)</title>
		<link>http://reson8.org/2008/disappointing/comment-page-1/#comment-1531</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill (cycleguy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scot,

This has been all over the blogs recently with, as you can imagine, all kinds of words.  From the harshest to the overly kind.  There needs to be a middle ground I think.  One that accepts and reproves. One that acknowledges the sin but one that doesn&#039;t shoot a person when he is down.  Bentley is much harder for me to be kind about but i am really sad about Mike&#039;s case.  What a powerful song he wrote and that ministered to so many.  Some found hope and healing and joy.  I pray for him to &quot;find his way&quot; and to come back a more effective witness than ever. We also need to pray for Hillsong and other affected by it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scot,</p>
<p>This has been all over the blogs recently with, as you can imagine, all kinds of words.  From the harshest to the overly kind.  There needs to be a middle ground I think.  One that accepts and reproves. One that acknowledges the sin but one that doesn&#8217;t shoot a person when he is down.  Bentley is much harder for me to be kind about but i am really sad about Mike&#8217;s case.  What a powerful song he wrote and that ministered to so many.  Some found hope and healing and joy.  I pray for him to &#8220;find his way&#8221; and to come back a more effective witness than ever. We also need to pray for Hillsong and other affected by it.</p>
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		<title>By: Scot Longyear</title>
		<link>http://reson8.org/2008/disappointing/comment-page-1/#comment-1525</link>
		<dc:creator>Scot Longyear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,
Yep. Sometimes the church responds with extremes:  kick somebody out forever or accept them back in the next day.  At our church we are working on a policy should something like this happen with our staff.  That policy involves guidelines such as counseling, and (if deemed appropriate) mentorship back into ministry.  The mentorship would be under the leadership of another church.  Most likely the person would not return to ministry at our church.

You are right, it is about restoring the individual.  Hard things MUST be asked and done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,<br />
Yep. Sometimes the church responds with extremes:  kick somebody out forever or accept them back in the next day.  At our church we are working on a policy should something like this happen with our staff.  That policy involves guidelines such as counseling, and (if deemed appropriate) mentorship back into ministry.  The mentorship would be under the leadership of another church.  Most likely the person would not return to ministry at our church.</p>
<p>You are right, it is about restoring the individual.  Hard things MUST be asked and done.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff T.</title>
		<link>http://reson8.org/2008/disappointing/comment-page-1/#comment-1523</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Scot - I totally agree with what you said. There seems to be a new tendency to get carried away with the grace-is-all-that&#039;s-needed approach in these situations. Yes, there should be grace. But it&#039;s not really grace unless it&#039;s accompanied by constructive changes in the ministry and individual&#039;s life. The hard questions MUST be asked so that the mistakes will not be repeated and the restoration can be permanent - not temporary. Any thgouths?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Scot &#8211; I totally agree with what you said. There seems to be a new tendency to get carried away with the grace-is-all-that&#8217;s-needed approach in these situations. Yes, there should be grace. But it&#8217;s not really grace unless it&#8217;s accompanied by constructive changes in the ministry and individual&#8217;s life. The hard questions MUST be asked so that the mistakes will not be repeated and the restoration can be permanent &#8211; not temporary. Any thgouths?</p>
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		<title>By: klampert</title>
		<link>http://reson8.org/2008/disappointing/comment-page-1/#comment-1521</link>
		<dc:creator>klampert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scot: yeah man that is a scary thought about all of this. We all carry garbage.

my thoughts on the whole thing
http://cecworship.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/healer-thoughts-now-what/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scot: yeah man that is a scary thought about all of this. We all carry garbage.</p>
<p>my thoughts on the whole thing<br />
<a href="http://cecworship.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/healer-thoughts-now-what/" rel="nofollow">http://cecworship.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/healer-thoughts-now-what/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Toby</title>
		<link>http://reson8.org/2008/disappointing/comment-page-1/#comment-1519</link>
		<dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen!</p>
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